pto hydraulic pump for john deere 7200 planter for sale
PTO-driven hydraulic vacuum pumpThis attachment allows using the vacuum seed meter system pump with tractors having an open-center hydraulic system and/or a 540-rpm or 1000-rpm PTO.
Flat seed disks such as edible bean and sweet corn require high levels of vacuum. These disks require a dual vacuum motor configuration on planters over 8 rows. The 1000-rpm PTO pump is not adequate for this application.
I bought a 7200 6RN that I want to put a PTO pump on. Pulling the planter with a 30 series John Deere and don"t want to spend the money on Power Beyond or worry about burning out the hydraulics. I bought a pump off an 800 IH planter. Has anyone done this? Does it work? Anything special I need to do. Can these pumps be rebuilt if it doesn"t work? Thanks a lot guys.
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You"d really need to get down to the flow/pressure specs needed for your planter and compare them to the IH planter"s you"re looking at robbing if you go that route. They"d need to be within the same range.
I guess the question I"d be asking or wondering about is why you wouldn"t just run it off the SCV"s on a new tractor if you"re doing that now. Most 1/2" valves flow about 16 GPM per pair. The Ford shouldn"t have any problem doing that if the planter is using most of it"s flow. The problem you get into on the open center Ford"s is when you try to choke them down and they have to dump a significant portion of their pump flow at pressure across the unloading valve...
You might also want to double check and see if the 7740 isn"t a CCLS tractor to start with... Many, if not most around here were. If it"s an "SLE" with the 16x16 transmission, or even a 24x24, it should be CCLS. A 12x12 or the 8x2 would be open center. Those are "SL" and "S" models. The "SLE" will have no problem doing what you want in running the planter on the SCV.
Another option I"d look at would be PTO driving the fan. The planter I use is set up like that and just geared to run the tractor at mid-speed on the PTO. Something to think about...
We usually pull our vacuum metered 7200 6/30" with Dad"s 4320, last spring the 4320 went down and it was going to be a couple weeks to get it back up & running. Out came the 1964 3010D. I had my doubts, but the hyds on that tractor were plenty to run the vacuum / fertilizer auger & lift. It sure was a handful getting over the sand hills power wise, the old NA 4 cylinder was smoking & throwing sparks giving everything it had, the front wheels were even floating from time to time. Was kinda fun, it"s not every day that planting feels like tractor pulling.
That said, with a little prep and if your on relatively flat ground, a MX110 will probably handle that planter. The hyd will run everything just fine, it"ll just struggle some when pulling a hill or soft spot. Might have to drop a gear lower than you like & probably will need some extra weight on the front.
For a PTO pump, when you start adding up the parts & headaches trying to design your own, I think you"ll find that $1800 is actually a pretty good deal. Especially if you consider the chance of putting something together & it doesn"t work out. We"ve all been there, something looks great on paper, you spend a couple days getting it all set up, then find out you"ve got to start nearly from scratch again. Get into planting season & it isn"t working, you"d gladly spend $1800 to get out in the field.
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PTO HYDRAULIC PUMP WITH COOLER - PLANTER John Deere 1760 - PLANTER - 1760 Wing-Fold (8-Row and 12-Row) Drawn Conservation Planter and 60 Seed Cart VACUUM SYSTEMS PTO HYDRAULIC PUMP WITH COOLER | 777parts
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I have a JD 5085M with 2 SCV"s plus the 2 mid-mount SCV"s for the JD 563SL Loader. I had a JD 7000 planter which was ground driven with finger units. Sold it to a customer for his sweet corn and filling in drowned out areas. Anyway, I am looking at upgrading to a vac planter but don"t think my tractor has the capabilities to keep a hydrailc driven vac spun up plus I cannot "lock" the controls without jimmy-rigging a bungie chord. If I remember correctly, the 5085M is Open Center and rated at 18.4 gpm @ 2828 psi (TractorData.com John Deere 5085M tractor information) and most vac planter have almost double the flow rate at 30+ gpm. I am looking for a 540 PTO hydraulic pump/reservoir that would handle the capacity. Any good recommendations?
One advantage the 5085M has is 540/540E PTO. 540E allows the PTO to run at 540 RPM no matter the engine speed. This works great when I hook to my 85" Batco conveyor for filling grain bins since I can idle the tractor with the PTO engaged and it still runs at 540 and saves a ton of fuel Tractor is rated at 85 HP, 70 HP PTO. I can keep a constant PTO at any RPM and I believe a vac planter does not require a lot of HP.
The drill is used for planting what’s called a “solid stand” – usually a grain. For corn and dry beans, we needed yet another new piece of equipment, a row crop planter.
As usual, this one also required a lot of attention before it got its first run around the field. A Deere 7200 6-row vacuum planter (purchased used, of course), it requires two hydraulic hook-ups. Unfortunately, the tractor we’re borrowing from my uncle Johnny for this purpose only has one place to hook up hydraulic hoses. So, my dad and our intrepid friend Butch figured out a way to make it work by adding all these black boxes and hoses:
(For the mechanically inclined: that’s a PTO-driven hydraulic pump, with a hydraulic fluid reservoir and a hydraulic oil cooler with an auxiliary fan.)
John watching the computer monitor while trying out the planter for the first time on sweet corn. It’s hard to watch the screen and drive a straight row at the same time! Fortunately there’s not much traffic on the field, so he just has to worry about how it will look after the crop comes up.
It worked on the sweet corn, and we didn’t have to make too many upgrades and modifications before planting our four varieties of edible dry beans, and then soybeans.
Shortly after this picture was taken during the bean-planting, however, the tractor (a Deere 4010) we were borrowing started having trouble. The battery kept dying, and then when we jumped it with the pickup truck, it sometimes wouldn’t throttle up enough to go. Finally we figured out that we were asking more of this beautifully-maintained 1964 tractor than it was designed to handle – both the fan and the computer were drawing down the battery, and the alternator couldn’t keep up. We unplugged those electronics and finished up as quickly as we could before the rain.