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That same night, I heard the same rumour come from a more experienced tool shop collegue than myself,a part timer that knows a lot more about tools than I"ve come to learn so far, not sure where he heard it from. He did make mention though that what he heard is that Bunnings wants to move to the diamond shape of merchandising. High and low quality items being at the top and bottom points of the diamond, allowing for a limited range of product, and the middle spread of medium quality/medium pricing products being in abundance. Unfortunately for myself, I consider Ryobi to occupy the lower echelons of quality.
So from what I"ve been able to interpret, it sounds exactly the direction Bunnings may be moving in. Techtronics, being the parent company of Ryobi, by signing an exclusivity deal with Bunnings would mean having to bring in their full range of tools. I wouldn"t imagine that they"d be signing the deal on the basis of what exposure they have now, which for my store is pretty small. Ryobi products DO sell out of my store, but it"s more due to people having misconceptions on the quality of the product rather than we as salesmen pushing it (baring one chap who has a rather distastful infatuation with the stuff).
I"m not against cheap tools per se, I don"t like cheap tools masquerading as items of quality. Ryobi"s replacement warranty does mean we do see our fair share of products come back, which would increase if we started selling higher volumes. In our particular store, Bosch is the biggest seller by manufacturer, just because they have a good price point and generally good level of quality. It"s all about horses for courses, and you don"t go selling grandma a trade quality item, and vice versa.
A bit off the topic, but I have just handed over a new Bunnings store in inner city Melbourne. When we started the job, there was a timber yard across the road that I can remember from I was a kid. It was a family company over 100 years old. They objected to the Bunnings development but lost, so they moved a few kms away, and within 3 months they had gone down the gurgler, and took a few of their suppliers with them as well. Tools
Bunnings floor space ratio for tools is very very low - the range is limited and the stock levels are as well - i"d suggest their market share is also very low - i havent seen any dedicated tool shops shut down, and only one decent sized HW store in my city - lots of ma and pa operations that think $70 a can of no name brand exterior paint is a deal - wonder why they have gone out of business???????
BP, you miss that bunnies has massively increased the size of the market - so when i said "market share" i was amiss - its more of the others havent declined, but bunnies have taken up a lot of the growth from cheapo chinese imports - 20years ago, normal household didnt have drop saw - that was a $600 item - now they do - people owned one drill and hand tools - now if you need to screw a screw, you go buy a battery drill!
The only different thing about bunnies is been next door and competing doesnt help like it does with HN"s, myers etc where customers are attracted by the big store - though i reckon a big toolies could make a killing next door, as long as they dumped the cheap chinese crap hand tools - you cant get decent stuff at bunnings - only sell decent stuff and you"ll do alright - start selling GMC/homebrand ala home and mitre 10 and you"re doomed
Whatever the situation, it will be very, very interesting to see how it all unfolds at Bunnings. Heck, I thought that the BigB"s own Ozito was gearing up for a big year. What does Bunnings do with them now? (can hear many, many of you out there in cyberworld almost melting your keyboards to be the first to "quote" me and then add "Who cares..." :wink:) And what will GMC do with Triton, now that they"ve tried to work up some momentum with all of those new tools and stationary gear?..
So at least one competitor would rather that bunnings stick as much to the lower end as possible, and leave them to real tools. bunnings 10% promise pisses competitors off a bit - I"ve rung up for items and they will only quote the price from bunnings, and says if I go lower , you"ll go to bunnings and get 10% less!! - too much cynicism!
I think it is a good thing (no I haven"t thought this through!): means I don"t have to go to Bunnings to buy any power tool. I"m sure there will be plenty of other outlets for all the other brands - might actually make them more successful!
I"m not sure what their motivation is, whether Triton is as crap as they "claim" but these are tools that have world class reputations (the router specifically), so I"m not inclined to take every repairer"s word at face value. I had a switch in my saw go about 4 years ago (too much MDF dust), and the repairer did the same rhetoric about how much he hated Triton. The saw (with a new switch) never stopped again.
Lately been watching kmart for any improvement in the stock they carry,no such luck,paint department non existant now, crap Arlec power tools,shrinking hardware section, you could be right!!:(
I"m not sure what their motivation is, whether Triton is as crap as they "claim" but these are tools that have world class reputations (the router specifically), so I"m not inclined to take every repairer"s word at face value. I had a switch in my saw go about 4 years ago (too much MDF dust), and the repairer did the same rhetoric about how much he hated Triton. The saw (with a new switch) never stopped again.
Having said all that, the Triton is my router of choice because of its" features, but I am inclined to take note of service people. They usually have no axe to grind, they should welcome all those tools that break down, it is their bread and butter.
Trade Tools is the place to go for just about any power tool. Walk into TT and any one of 6 people behind the counter are pleased to serve you and know their tools as well.
Having said all that, the Triton is my router of choice because of its" features, but I am inclined to take note of service people. They usually have no axe to grind, they should welcome all those tools that break down, it is their bread and butter.My experience is not that dissimilar, but writing off the opinion of a tool because of the insidious nature of MDF is a bit short-sighted by the repairers. The early switch wasn"t sealed, and thus I guess our similar failure.
Or maybe, just maybe, average Joe will continue to shop for tools at Bunnings long enough to increase demand for Ryobi products, spurring an investment in R&D, innovation and performance of their products will increase while prices remain reasonable... and we all live happily ever after.
I"m not sure what their motivation is, whether Triton is as crap as they "claim" but these are tools that have world class reputations (the router specifically), so I"m not inclined to take every repairer"s word at face value.
But I"ll never forgive or forget poor and indifferent customer service. I"m replacing my AEG, Milwaukee, Atlas Copco, Kango and Eisenblaetter tools with non Ryobi-owned alternatives in future, and recommend others do the same. The customer is king, Ryobi and Bunnings: ignore us at your peril.
Has anybody else been to Mitre 10 lately...I went in this morning to get some liquid nails and with this thread in the back of my mind, I noticed that 90% of the tools on show are Ryobi...please please don"t tell me that they have an exclusive deal with Mitre 10 as well.
I popped into Bunnings today to pick up a couple of things after viewing this thread. I had a look around the power tool section for bargains - there weren"t any, but I did notice something unusual. In each of the power tool categories, they"ve put a "Clearance" sign and marked down by $1 GMC, B&D, Triton and in some cases DeWalt and Makita kit. The DeWalt and Makita weren"t marked down in all categories though, and I didn"t notice Bosch being marked down at all.
I have almost managed to upgrade all my workshop tools - there is only 1 Ryobi other there (a weed eater), and only a handful of GMC. (SCMS, dust extractor, air compressor and associated bits)
I"ll upgrade the dust extractor soon, the air tools keep doing the energiser bunny, and the SCMS can keep going until it dies (or until I find myself with a Kapex and a metal eating blade to gnaw on the GMC).
Strangely enough, I was thinking of giving the Ryobi 18volt system a go, seeing that their new Li-Ion battery packs fit the old Ni-Cd tools. Now - not a chance in hell - Bunnings couldn"t organise a p**s-up in a brewery as far as support for tools goes.
The Mitre 10 super store near me has a sale on atm on all remaining Dewalt tools (good specials too), the tool shop man said there not selling any more Dewalt, yet the Mitre 10 store in Phillip island still has a big range, i also notice that they were more expensive than bunnings who are still expensive themselves.
I have only one Ryobi power tool. I lent it the other day for first time use and the sparky said the RCD on the lead didn"t work so he had to take it off and use a separate inline RCD.:oo:
Bunnings still has GMC in stock, but how much and what variety differs from store to store. I"m a wood newbie, getting back into the game after 19 years, and I wanted some cheap tools to fit out the workshop (cough, garage, cough)... I rang the Fountain Gate Bunnings and yes, they still had GMC stock but they were clearing it out, and wouldn"t be re-stocking.
All I can say is that if Ryobi is clever enough to come up with this scheme and make it work, more power to them. You may or may not like Ryobi tools, but if you are the latter, the choice is easy, just dont buy them and go to Trade Tools or Glenfords or whatever and buy whatever brand tool you like.
Part of the deal is that Ryobi will train Bunnings employees in proper and correct power tool use and selection. The program will familiarise Bunnings staff of many power tools and their use so that information can be *correctly* delivered to the purchaser, which in many cases is not the case currently with some bunnings staff delivering bad and incorrect advice. Of course, there will probably be a bit of a trend for the staff to recommend the Ryobi lines as these they will be mostly familiar with through the staff training rollout, but again, the way I see it, if the competitors to Ryobi cannot come up with something equally as good to match, then Ryobi have aced them. Its all a big game of Survivor... outlast, outplay, and whatever that third saying is :)
Ultimately, we have the choice of whether to buy Ryobi tools or not, or whether to shop at the Big B or not. No one is forcing you to buy any tool or shop anywhere if you do not want to. Yes I know, if there are no other options argument etc etc... but if you feel that strongly, then you will find a way around anything.
Personally I put the current crop of Ryobi gear in the same league as GMC and other such brands and would generally prefer to buy better quality than that. I"m not really concerned about Big B limiting their power tool range to Ryobi as I purchase elsewhere .... and the nearest Big B is a good 2.5 hour round trip away.
Personally I put the current crop of Ryobi gear in the same league as GMC and other such brands and would generally prefer to buy better quality than that. I"m not really concerned about Big B limiting their power tool range to Ryobi as I purchase elsewhere .... and the nearest Big B is a good 2.5 hour round trip away
To be honest I would probably buy GMC over Ryobi, going by my last Ryobi purchase (crap Ryobi circular saw - replaced with a Makita). Whereas the GMC tools that I do own (cement mixer, biscuit joiner), all work to my expectations of them.
I don"t think it"s going to be ryobi exclusive. What I heard was that Bunnings just has to many variations per power tool and they are just cutting back to a smaller set of choices.
Time to move over to online purchases. Someone in Hong Kong needs to open up a power tools website like DX extreme but for power tools & iinclude shipping in the price since it costs bugger all from there to post stuff out.
Frankly aussie prices in power tools are ridiculous anyway for anything decent. I"m happy to import. Never had much luck with warranties anyway. Most stuff dies outside of warranty period.
while dad tools up to fix the broken batroom cupboard with throwaway tools and crappy hardware, mum buys a few plants and other oddments for the garden and the house
Your experiences are like mine recently. I used to go in there because they had a decent range but as of late things are looking rather barren in the toolshop. I think most of their sales will come from ozito gear now because any of the other stuff is getting scarce selection wise and not really competitive anyway. Stock consilidation has it"s advantages but for a massive chain like BigB I think it"s actually bad for business despite what may seem an initial saving. I have a feeling that BigB"s power tools range will mimmick the garbage range tha is present in BigW atm given 5-10 years. Back in the day they had a reasonable range as well but now I don"t know why they bother.
I"m by no means a tool junkie expecting miracle gear but I"m finding more and more online toolshops (with a bricks and mortar presences anyway) to have prices of really good gear (hitachi, makita etc) equalling or close to BigB"s midrange Ryobi junk.
My wifes" employer is one of the larger Tool repair places in our city and he won"t deal with them so Ryobi buyers with a warranty problem are left to have Bunnings and other retailers send their tools out of town as I understand the other repairers are also fed up with .
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