wagner loader hydraulic pump quotation
Would you need dimensions from my machine(I have them, just not here at work...)? or are you baseing this on known measurements? Do you sell a pump to bolt in this bracket? Looks like the original was 3/4NPT in and 1/2NPT out...[/quote:e448fbef4a]
1) CL of the original pump shaft in relation to the tab weldedto the frame of the loader. Ignore the L brackets. Just measure up from the center of the shaft to the bottom of that tab.
2)The CL height of the new pump. You need to be sure the new pump isn"t too tall to fit under that tab. We can deal with this issue when selecting a pump.
[quote:e448fbef4a]I still have the kit(L827-10X) that i bought on this site, do you think they sell just the pump alone(i dont see just the pump...ill keep looking), or would it be close to the same cost(329.90) for a similar pump alone(14gpm@2000rpm, CCW, 3/4shaft). [/quote:e448fbef4a]
If you can return what you have (and since it won"t work I"d think you can) I"d suggest you return it and buy a generic SAE A mount pump (www.surpluscenter.com) with the appropriate delivery , rotation, and port orientation. I"d guess the suction and pressure ports on the L827 pump are on the wrong sides when the pump is flipped upside down. You could probably cobble up the plumbing but the proper pump would make for a neater job. I"m pretty sure we could meet or beat the L827 price for the complete solution.
Ford 2N 8N 9N Tractor Wagner Front Mount Loader Auxiliary Hydraulic Pump. For sale is a Wagner front mount auxiliary hydraulic pump for a Ford 2N/8N/9N, comes with 2 hoses and fittings, functioned as should when removed. This is a used part and a such shows signs of wear like dirt, grime, oil, and scratches.
Condition: Used, Condition: Used, has some dirt, grime, and chipping paint, but functions as should, Brand: Wagner, Part Type: Fron Mount Pump, MPN: Na
Wagner Mining Equipment was responsible for many innovations in the mining vehicle industry in the latter half of the 20th century by developing underground front-end loaders, high-capacity rear dump trucks, fail-safe brake innovations, and their signature LHD (Load Haul Dump) loader: the Scooptram®. After changing names from Wagner Tractor to Wagner Mining Scoop Co., the company was eventually acquired by Atlas Copco in 1973. Atlas Copco renamed the company Wagner Mining Equipment in 1989 and again in 1990 to Wagner Mining and Construction Equipment to highlight their production of above-ground heavy equipment as well. In 1995, the name was again changed to Atlas Copco Wagner. The Wagner has since been dropped, but the Scooptram® brand continues to be sold.
THE PHOTO IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOUR PUMP, BUT YOU WILL RECEIVE EITHER THE ORIGINAL MODEL OR AN EQUIVALENT WEBSTER/HALDEX/REXROTH/BOSCH/CESSNA BRAND PUMP.
Rear end and trans share the same fluid I believe and 032 hydraulic or universal tractor fluid should be just fine. 10w30 is fine for motor oil also. Just get the tractor supply stuff. These old fords are extremely un picky on fluid types.
The manual i found online specs Mild Extreme SAE 80 for the rear end and tranny. It then specs M-4684-A for the hydraulics and a SAE 20 for the engine.
Regarding the PTO, transmission driven pto is found on the 840 and 850 series, they have a single plate clutch. The pto is driven off the output shaft of transmission. When you push the clutch down the tractor and pto both stop. The 860 series has a double clutch assembly. When you push the clutch half way down the tractor stops moving, push the clutch all the way down then the pto stops. This tractor does have a 5 speed transmission right? One thing to check is put it under a load in 3rd gear,as these tractor get old 3rd gear is the most used and they get wore they have a tendency to jump out of gear. Can you get more pics of the steering assembly . From what i can see of the pictures this tractor has a vane style hydraulic pump, which is alright just very expensive to fix. The piston style pump is the most preferred. One good thing about the small Fords is parts are readily available. One other upgrade you might consider is for $35-$40 you can install electronic ignition in the distributor and it makes them start so much easier.Have fun and enjoy.
My 1953 Jubilee has two fill locations. One is for the transmission and hydraulic reservoir the other is for the rear end. I use universal tractor fluid in both locations.
Willie put the hydraulic fluid in the steering I use that in mine no problem. The wiper ring on the cylinders is no big deal just run it the way it is. Your rams look a little pitted so their isn"t much you can do for that, just add more fluid as you go. You ask about the engine oil I use Shell Rotella-T 15w-40 in everything I have .If you add oil to the steering unit and it still will not work get me some pics of the steering column and the steering cylinders I think we can make this work for you.Waiting to hear from you.
Hello, I"m not too sure about the hydrologic fluid for the rear end n tyranny. Hydrologic oil is usually 10w or so pretty light. That tyranny is not a hydrologic type or semi automatic. Just gears, in cold climate 30w hot temps 90w. Your power steering is a hydronic pump. Tyranny fluid can be used here also.
One more thing I forgot to mention. The loader probably has a front mount hydraulic pump , this pump will be mount on the loader frame right in front of the grill. The drive shaft for it goes thru the grill and fastens to the hub on the front of the crankshaft. With this set up the hydraulic reservoir for the loader is the tube frame of the loader.Just another place to check fluids, regular hydraulic fluid will work fine.
I found some manuals on Ntractorclub for the Wagner loaders and if i understand it correctly, i remove the reducer that"s on top of the loader frame tube shown in this picture and just fill it till i see the fluid. Does that sound right?