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I"m considering getting a rotary table for my V10 Maximat. I"ve seen the array of stuff on eBay and from the various suppliers. I don"t feel much like paying the asking price for an original Emco, which is only 4" anyway.
As to the milling base: The same friend has an Emco-Maier tabletop milling machine (I forget the model designation), which has the same head and column as on my V10, but has a much longer/deeper table than is possible on the V10. He showed me some old literature (from American Edelstaal) that listed the base unit as an accessory, allowing you to convert the V10 (or I suppose the V7) to two machines.
I don"t have your experience or expertise to modify/re-machine the "Out of the East" stuff, so I don"t think I"ll try to make one of the Chinese-junk tables work.
I"ll keep looking for an original (or maybe East-European, they"re still good) rotary table. I may have to budget kind of tight for a few months, but good tools are worth it.
PeteH wrote:I"m considering getting a rotary table for my V10 Maximat. I"ve seen the array of stuff on eBay and from the various suppliers. I don"t feel much like paying the asking price for an original Emco, which is only 4" anyway.
As to the milling base: The same friend has an Emco-Maier tabletop milling machine (I forget the model designation), which has the same head and column as on my V10, but has a much longer/deeper table than is possible on the V10. He showed me some old literature (from American Edelstaal) that listed the base unit as an accessory, allowing you to convert the V10 (or I suppose the V7) to two machines.
My main interest in the rotary table was originally making gears... which I since found out is a messy business - and with some research, usually unnecessary. But the idea of being able to mill an O-ring groove (or a carburetor spacer) is very appealing.
I found out recently that Emco used to sell the base only, so you could remove the milling column and have it transported it this larger, more stable base.
Wouldn"t 4" be kind of small for any real work, though? (Keeping in mind that the Emco mill, with only 1/3 hp, really isn"t a "production" tool, it still would be more useful to hold a bigger workpiece.)
Adding a larger table would be a solution but then the clearance distance to the spindle would be so reduced specially if a chuck is being used, that will render the milling head almost useless.
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Hi all has anyone with an emco fb2 mill had any problems with the standard soft cast alloy leadscrew nuts ? We have 3 fb2"s and they all suffered from excessive play, and when adjusted at the worst wear point to acceptable backlash tolerence, the leadscrew then became too tight in other less worn areas. we renewed the leadscrews and nuts 3 years ago with genuine parts from pro mach, but now the machines all show signs of excessive wear backlash. I was suprised and disappointed when we pulled these machines apart, to find that these nuts were made from a very soft die cast alloy. Even the cheaply made chinese stuff have phos bronze leadscrew nuts as do all quality made machines such as myford, bridgeport, colchester etc. Well as I have a full cnc workshop i have now created a ( metric)phosphor bronze leadscrew nut for the fb2.initially Machining them from 2 1/2" round bar (gauged) screw cutting the trapezoidal thread, then finishing off all milling operations on my 5 axis haas vm. To produce an exact but far superior version of the emco nut, This wasn"t a cheap option, but then the soft original alloy nuts are £50 each.and now fitted with new leadscrews from pro mach our 3 fb2"s are transformed and will give years of backlash free service. If anyone is interested I made an extra 10 of these nuts whilst my machines were set up cheers kev
Hi johan the problem IS created by the use of the the aluminium nut as this creates an electolytic reaction between the two dissimilar metals. The steel leadscrews are fine once used with phosphour bronze nuts. We have proved this with our combination over the last 7 months, our 3 x fb2 machines are used 5 days a week, for approximately 5 hours per day , in our R&D dept by students, we have the standard emco leadscrews and with the phos bronze there is no sign of the usual wear inherent to the fb2
Hi Ian thanks for that, very unusual indeed for a myford to have an aluminium leadscrew nut, how old was that machine ? Did the nut look home made. We have 2 x 254 lathes one imperial (1986)one metric (1994) . The leadscrewson these are phos bronze even the one in the tailstock, we make phos bronze leadscrew nuts for a local firm who repair four post car & trick garage lifts, they are exactly the same set up but much much larger and extremely expensive ! Emco used die cast alloy simply to keep the cost down, which unfortunately was the achilles heel of the otherwise perfect little mill. If i can figure out how to do it i will upload some pictures of the nuts we made for the fb2 cheers kev
hi all...if anyone is interested I will post the spare leadscrew nuts I made on fleabay within the next 2 weeks... I have 8 spare (metric) ..(4 pairs).. I don"t anticipate making anymore as they were rather time consuming & the material costs wase £335 ( just enough to make 14 leadscrew nuts).. I have used 6 myself, They Are A VAST improvement on the cheap HE30 ally ones now made by emco..If I had made them from the same material as Emco The Material cost for HE30 would have been £60 to make 14. So why Emco charge so much for theirs is a mystery Regards..Kev
the nut is a nice design and adjustable for backlash, that much so when it finally gave up the ghost it had hardly any thread in it but also hardly any backlash. Screw wear was the worst culprit at this stage in it"s life
PS: obviously all of these will be (gauged) screw cut in their metric form.On Our Haas CNC Lathe (Nut & Leadscrew). Not Tapped as some cheaper varieties & Emco Originals
Hi All...Thanks For The Numerous E Mail / Messages On here...Here Is A Picky Of Our Phos Bronze Leadscrew Nuts, Alongside The Soft Cast Ally Emco Original. Our Version Is Within 0.05mm Of original. We Machined Them From Round (CNC Haas), Screw Cutting The Metric TP20 x 3 Thread, "Gauged". Then Finished Them Off On Our 4 axis CNC Haas VM2. I Have ordered The Material To Make The Leadscrews To Match, When Finished These will be Induction Hardened. They Won"t Be Cheap But They Will be PERFECT !!
Hi All...Thanks for all your comments, we specialise in all sorts of trick machining including gearbox shafts and machine on a weekly if not daily basis shafts in en39c,then case hardened, we have CNC Precision grinding, broaching, thread rolling, and laser / water jet cutting facilities all in house. These Leadscrews will be correctly, Hardened & they will be well within concentricity (and a lot better)than that of Emco"s own Leadscrews. Take A look at the Nuts we have already made, We Produce only the best quality components to some very well known manufacturers & race teams.
I am only doing these to fulfill an order for an Austrian Customer, & To Gear Up Our Own 3 x Emco FB2"s (student / apprentice training) With Decent Hard Wearing Leadscrews & Nuts. and I don"t mind machining 50 spare sets in the process. Material Composition & Certification and Hardness/ Data will be available at point of sale.
Hi Graham, Yes i agree 100% the emco is a gem of a machine as i say i have 3 already in my unit, and i have just purchased a fourth from a chap in ireland ! I will collect that next week, when i return from America. this is why I am going to the trouble of manufacturing a vastly improved leadscrew system for the fb2 And this will be regardless of cost or my time ! I have a large machine shop incorporating all types of CNC and manual operations, I have 17 employees all of whom are time served and fully qualified, Albert my oldest member of staff is 72 next month !! Yes i am aware that emco thread rolled their leadscrews, but i was suprised to find that they hadn"t used a material that coukd be suitably hardened after the rolling process. I have contacted Karl a very good friend of mine who now works for HAAS automation in America He is operations manager on their manufacturing production line,I have asked him what material they us on their VM s and what processes they use to manufacture their leadscrews, i await his response. It was the same gentleman I contacted before making the nuts last month, i have made them from the exact grade if phos bronze as Haas use for their machines, again regardless of cost !
The 7 was very similar in general layout and specification to the V10 but of 3.5" (90 mm) centre height and 17.5" (450 mm) between centres - although a 24.6" capacity (600 mm) longer bed model, the 7L, was also offered. Two very useful feature of this lathe were the excellent spread of speeds--65 to 2800 r.p.m for the English market- and the ease of changing them; there were no belts to move only two headstock-mounted levers and the 2-speed electric motor push buttons. No screwcutting gearbox was offered and the standard changewheel set consisted of 9 gears which could cut metric threads from 0.4 mm to 3 mm, English Threads from 8 to 80 t.p.i. and module from 0.2 to 1.Continued:Emco Maximat V10Pwith screwcutting gearbox, power cross feed and early 4-speed milling head. Although these heads are shown in the maker"s literature canted over to run on their side it is wise to ensure that, if they are tilted over so far, they are not overfilled with oil. If they are the simple oil thrower will not stop lubricant leaking into the electric motor.Continued:Shared between the models, the headstock appears to have been internally identical, with an arrangement such that the drive was always taken through a pair of gears where one in metal engaged with another whose steel hub carried laminated "fibre" teeth. Combined with lubrication by oil-splash this combination gave unusually quiet running - and a reputation for reliability. However, none of the assemblies can take foolish handling, and trying to move the selector levers before the shafts have completely stopped leads to the main-spindle fibre gear being eaten away on one side and the eventual failure of the two lightly-constructed alloy selector forks - and it is not unknown for these to also fail with age and fatigue. Hence, it"s a good idea (and especially before buying one of these lathes) to remove the four screws securing the headstock cover plate and take a good look inside. Cracks in the selectors are hard to see, but a magnifying glass will often reveal them. If the a fork does break, and drop into the headstock, it will wreck two or more pairs of gears. New forks, in bronze, are available - though as they are made in batches might not always be in stock (email for details).
A 0.25 h.p. 4-speed, 350, 640, 780 and 1450 r.p.m. milling head (later replaced with a six speed), proved to be a popular, if expensive, fitting and was lifted straight from the contemporary Emco bench milling machine. The head"s mounting column was held in a simple cast-iron bracket bolted to the back of the bed by four set-screws and arranged so that it rested on the bench exactly level with the bed feet. Electrical control of the head was integrated into that used for the lathe, with the necessary switchgear built as standard into every machine to allow easy retrofitting. The head had a 40 mm stroke quill, carried a No. 2 Morse taper, and offered 305 mm of clearance between spindle nose and table and some 145 mm of throat.
One point to consider on all Emco lathes of this era is the small frame size of the electric motors and their tendency to run very hot. However, being of modern design, they should, in theory, be no more unreliable than older types of more generous proportions, but with less effective insulation - however, one has to say, their reputation in this respect is not good and direct replacements appear unavailable.
A wide range of (expensive) extras was available for the V10 and V10P including steadies, collets, rotary tables and a neat toolpost grinder that used the special high-speed collet-holding headstock spindle assembly supplied as an option for the Unimat SL1000Tony Griffiths
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Karl, Is there any chance you would be able to get the drawing from Emco for Item C6A-000-380? I know you have help us in the group before and your help has been very appreciated by myself and others
Karl, Is there any chance you would be able to get the drawing from Emco for Item C6A-000-380? I know you have help us in the group before and your help has been very appreciated by myself and others
The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the EmcoSuper11lathes@groups.io group. /Schlossmutter2.pdf By: karl test
The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the EmcoSuper11lathes@groups.io group. /Schlossmutter2.pdf By: karl test
Hello Asking for the half nut i got this drawings. I received both drawings of the half nut. Suitable for the green S11. (others too?) So you can print it or compare it with the V10 half nut you have.
Hello Asking for the half nut i got this drawings. I received both drawings of the half nut. Suitable for the green S11. (others too?) So you can print it or compare it with the V10 half nut you have.
Hi, I need some help getting my Emco Super 11 working with a VFD. I purchased a VFD and my (new-to-me) Emco Maximat Super 11 with a 220v 3 phase motor two weeks ago. I ran 220v power in my garage, wir
Hi, I need some help getting my Emco Super 11 working with a VFD. I purchased a VFD and my (new-to-me) Emco Maximat Super 11 with a 220v 3 phase motor two weeks ago. I ran 220v power in my garage, wir
Emco Jacobs Drill Chucks come in 3 configurations. They are: 1) 12mmx1 thread for older Unimat machines 2) 14mmx1 thread for Unimat 3 and later machines including Emco Compact 5, Compact 8, Compact 10
Emco Jacobs Drill Chucks come in 3 configurations. They are: 1) 12mmx1 thread for older Unimat machines 2) 14mmx1 thread for Unimat 3 and later machines including Emco Compact 5, Compact 8, Compact 10
Emco Dividing Head (745-000) https://www.ebay.com/itm/255384893768?hash=item3b76203948:g:6lIAAOSwTChiCVc1 Emco Milling Guard (525-320) https://www.ebay.com/itm/255384892089?hash=item3b762032b9:g:jbsAA
Emco Dividing Head (745-000) https://www.ebay.com/itm/255384893768?hash=item3b76203948:g:6lIAAOSwTChiCVc1 Emco Milling Guard (525-320) https://www.ebay.com/itm/255384892089?hash=item3b762032b9:g:jbsAA
The EMCOMAT FB-3 L is ideal for use in tool and mould making, in apparatus and prototype construction and in small series production. It has also proven itself many times in schools and training workshops. As the smallest machine in the EMCO milling machine range, the FB-3 L already meets the highest demands for accuracy and flexibility - and that at an unbeatable price-performance ratio.
Whether prototype construction, maintenance or, most importantly, training - EMCO"s conventional and cycle-controlled machines manage the balancing act and offer maximum accuracy in the smallest possible space and flexibility down to the last detail. Highlights of the EMCOMAT 17D- Main spindle DIN55029- Tailstock (eccentrically adjustable)- Simple steel holder (clamping claw)- Belt drive for feed gear- Chuck protection with electrical limit switch- Optional equipment such as coolant device, slid...
In Utah, I don"t know what you can do locally. In the SF Bay area, $1000 would be cheap if in top shape and a lot of tooling. The age doesn"t matter but the condition means a lot. A big factor is how much tooling you have. Two chucks (3 and 4 jaw), two steadies, drill chuck, centers, and the like would help. Do you have the vertical mill attachment? If you have the Emco rotary table and vise, that"s adds more.
So many people put up one or two crappy pictures of a dirty or badly repainted machine and try to get thousands of dollars, that a well-presented lathe from a careful owner (and not a dealer) will look very desirable. Most sellers don"t seem to realize that if you are asking someone you don"t know to send you, say $2000, for a machine, you should go out of your way to make them comfortable with the purchase. If you do that, you"ll get top dollar and have a happy buyer.
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Print code ME351L Manual for the Emco 4 speed Vertical Milling and Drilling Head as fitted to various Emco lathes and as a stand alone milling machine This manual covers only the head and rotary table with indexing tables and not the table For the Emco FB2 6 speed milling machine see Publication ME352 below
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